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This thread begins discussion on satan and what is considered by most as his "fallen" assembly of cohorts.
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 29th, 2010, 04:46am »

"Predestination in its purest form is history being played out as God knows by his foreknowledge it will. Can "history future" deviate from the foreknowledge of God?"

I think not. God knows the end from the beginning. So, from that perspective God was fully and previously aware that a third of the angelic host would follow satan in his rebellion against God.

Although I had never equated those two subjects together before, together they are interesting points, as are the following.

As for the book of Enoch, there may be a grain of truth inside the information of that document, but the document as a whole is not what it claims to be.

The scripture does not allow in its record of "the" Enoch ever having written anything, let alone it. That doesn't mean someone hadn't past along information to the writer that he in turn expounded upon which may possess the root of truth at its core. But the experience itself claiming to have involved Enoch, then him returning to document it would not agree with the scripture in that Enoch is never identified as having written anything, much less of an experience such as the writer describes elswhere in the manuscript. Then, "Enoch walked with God and was not, for God took him".

For example,
Matthew 26:51-53
51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priestís, and smote off his ear. 52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?

Without doing any research, a notation in my "reading" Bible has a number attached to the reference to the phrase "twleve legions." 72,000. Even if we assume that number represents the remaining two thirds of the angels of heaven after satan's rebellion, (and I do not believe it does, there were many more) that puts the numerical of the fallen angels at the very least 36,000. I believe many more than 200 son's of God mixed with the daughters of men when that incident occured.
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 28th, 2010, 05:42am »

on Feb 26th, 2010, 2:47pm, cruxty wrote:
What account do we have in the bible that there was possibly a second corruption fo man through fallen angels?

An event that would have caused the promised land to be filled with giants that Joshua, and Calob knew they could lick with the Lords help.



Genesis 6:4
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

We do not know when, but that is the record that it occured.

on Feb 26th, 2010, 2:47pm, cruxty wrote:
The event that would have caused another group of Nephilim to be born like Goliath and his brothers.

These accounts of giants were post flood era.

These men were not neanderthals or those with birth defects causing them to be giant sized humans. Because on the account of goliath had huge weapons and armor that he carried proves he wasn't a weak individual like those with giantism birth defects.

The only thing about this question if there was a second corruption then Isaiah 26:14 wouldn't line up with that scripture speaking of Nephilim.

Isaiah 26:14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.
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« Reply #3 on: May 6th, 2010, 12:31pm »

Unavoidable Realities We Must Deal With
The Hardest Article Ever Attempted

As Christians we face a very difficult future in defending our faith, particularly when you realize what you will soon be up against. This article (or perhaps series of articles) will be "laced" with TONS of information from MANY SOURCES because the topic is far to vast to sum up. Perhaps this was by "extraterrestrial" design. But first let's be clear about the word "extraterrestrial". In the context of this article it simply means "not of the earth". It more accurately means - not of this "dimension". Before you read onward, be advised, I am not alone in trying to raise the flag on this topic. Other well known Christians are beginning to step forward. (Chuck Missler, Tom Horn, Michael S. Heiser, Stephen Quayle, etc.) Each time I "hint" at sources of information (of which you can pursue further study) I will leave behind "key words" and sometimes link you to other sources. You will need to do your own homework. But be careful because there is an ocean of information available and it is DEEP in lies and deception.
Let's start with Zechariah 5:1 . The NKJV of the Bible refers to this as the "Vision of the Flying Scroll".
Zech 5:1-3
5 Then I turned and raised my eyes, and saw there a flying scroll. 2 And he said to me, "What do you see?" So I answered, "I see a flying scroll. Its length is twenty cubits and its width ten cubits." 3 Then he said to me, "This is the curse that goes out over the face of the whole earth:
NKJV
So I leave you with this verse to ponder. What was it that Zechariah actually saw? Yes God did write a curse on the object (Zech 5:3-4) but that is not the question. Some translations identify this "object" as a flying "roll". The actual size is identified as 30 feet wide and 15 feet long. Hmmm. Why do you supposed the size of the object was important enough to mention? Why do you think God sent it across all the earth? Why was it "flying"? Was it just one that God sent or was it a symbolic representation of many over time? If you are going to tackle this subject, particularly with scripture, you will need to really open your mind. (Think Acts 17:11 ) There are some really strange things that are about to be revealed. Like it or not, you better start getting smart about this information now, or as a Christian you will be seen as a "real gullible idiot".
If it isn't bad enough we have to contend with 1) dinosaurs, 2) earth's actual age at millions of years, 3) carbon dating on archaeological finds, and 4) the Satanist Darwin and his lying "theory", we will soon have to deal with this "UFO" nonsense. Be careful here because I am not suggesting that people have not seen UFOs. I am positive there are millions of credible people who "think" they were abducted by "aliens". But what I am TELLING YOU is that they are not "flying saucers" coming from other "planets". In fact a number of sources indicate they are far more likely "inter-dimensional" in their nature. They are objects that can "move in and out" of dimensions that we, as humans, are not able to perceive.

Boy is this complicated. I've known about this subject for more than 2 years but hesitated to attempt tackling it because of its complexity.

The Great Deception of God

Tribulation-Now has taken on a challenge of monumental proportions. As I started this research I mapped out on a white-board, all the major topics associated with this forthcoming "great delusion" to be sent by God. It included the New World Order, the Occult, Ancient Civilizations (Sumerians), Bloodlines of Satanic Cultures (Black Nobility, Templars, etc.), and with GREAT HESITATION even this UFO topic (and ultimately discovered they are all "linked"). Indeed that was my most difficult mental battle. While like everyone else I knew all about the Roswell incident and watched the History Channel specials on UFOs, I just could not accept in my mind that I would have to face up to them as reality. What really blew my mind was Nostradamus. That was when I actually "blew a fuse". When I realized that the final writings of Nostradamus had vivid prophecies of UFOs and cosmic battles I actually tossed the reading aside and stopped all of my research for several months. While I know that Nostradamus was not a stranger to the occult and practiced alchemy and hallucinogenic drug intoxication, (common amongst oracles and "seers" of the Satanic world), I DID NOT think he was predicting "flying saucers". For me that was the last straw.
But instead it was the door that opened my unbelieving eyes.
ALL THESE THINGS ARE LINKED TOGETHER, AND ALL OF THEM POINT STRAIGHT BACK TO JESUS CHRIST AS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR
You MUST understand, the Bible is an UNDERSTATEMENT of MONUMENTAL PROPORTIONS
2 Thess 2:11-12
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be flowersed who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
KJV
The Paradox
In fact, the Government has known about this UFO / alien thing for quite some time. But here is the hardest part of the paradox you must get your arms around before proceeding. Satan, the deceiver, is much more powerful and clever than any of us might imagine. And the Almighty God (YHWH) and he are at war. They have been at war for at least 6 thousand years (since Adams seed), and some argue a LOT LONGER than that. When you understand that God is eternal, and there are allusions to time dimension "gaps" throughout Genesis, it provides for an understanding that the earth is in fact millions of years old and the Bible does not record every part of the earth's existence since God created "light". Keep in mind, during the end-times KNOWLEDGE increases substantially. Welcome to some of that knowledge but be warned ... time is short.
You MUST understand the enemy's tactics. The single most important TACTIC you must understand is the nature of the occult world. All the occult groups use a pyramidic structure of "hidden knowledge". Only those "invited" into the upper echelon get to hear the whole story. And only the tiny group at the very tip top get to actually "talk to Satan" and hear the "master plan" live and in person. Each level (or degree) of these groups get told a "little more" as they (or if they) progress to the next level. The rest are all given lies. This means that every group of Satan's army has a different "degree" of information. So ultimately they are ALL DECEIVED. Depending on who you get information from, it will be different. Many who think they are "at the top" don't know the half of the story. So in any occult group, be it the Illuminati, the Masons, the Mormons, the Jehovah's Witnesses, the Rosicrucians, the Brotherhood, the Jesuits, the Vatican, the CIA, Israeli Mossad, the MI6, the U.S. Military "Black Ops" - you NAME IT - there are millions of people who are "involved" but have NO UNDERSTANDING of the master plan. Only the ultra-elite know. The very chosen few.
(So you ask me ... "How do I know"? Two reasons. The Holy Spirit of God in me and THREE YEARS of intense research down every dark alley of the enemy's territory. Hundreds of hours of lectures (at least a Ph.D.) I have more than $2000 dollars worth of books, lectures, DVDs, testimonies, etc. from every subject available. And the method of 'triangulating' this research is what I refer to as the "Venn Diagram" method of study. You keep and open mind and study the material from all the unrelated sources. Satanists, New World Order, History, Mythology (which actually has more truth in it than you might imagine), Government Black Ops, Ancient Egypt, UFOs and alien abduction testimonies, AND GUESS WHAT? They ALL have information that "intersects"! They all have information that "correlates" and agrees on certain topics. They all point straight back to the YHWH God and Jesus Christ. Shocked? Yep! Me too - that's why I am trying to write this article).

This is not only a war against the Jews and the Christians, but in fact a war against all mankind. Satan does not like humans. We are made in YHWH's image. In fact God has a master plan for all of us (who successfully pass this test on earth) and Satan doesn't like that either.
Tough Love
Since the "fallen angels" (that's a mis-interpretation by the way) of Genesis 6 that "raped" women of their choosing here on earth and gave birth to "Nephilim" (giants, men of great stature), Satan has been hard at work attacking the integrity of the human's gene pool. THAT IS WHY God sent his people into the land of Canaan to slaughter men, women and children. This is not an issue of God being duplicitous in his loving nature. This has to do with a concept we have all forgotten about. Its a concept known as "Tough Love". Tough love says that sometimes you love your wife so much that you are willing to KILL the rapist in order to STOP her from being raped and killed. Don't you see? God loves us so much that he will do ANYTHING to save us from this raging battle of human destruction. He doesn't want us to burn in Hell for eternity. That's why he sent his son Jesus. By removing "SIN" from us sacrificially in the "spirit world" he provided a means to protect at least SOME of his creations ... his greatest love. Us. That took the WIND out of Satan's sails. He is the "great accuser". (Refer to Job). Satan points his finger at us and says "LOOK THEY SIN" knowing that God cannot accept sin into his heavens. By giving us a chance to escape the extraterrestrial consequences of sin, God gave us a divine escape route that leads to "another dimension". You have to think PAST your meager earthly existence and try to grasp the concept of spiritual eternity before any of this starts to make sense.

"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe
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